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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Decision to bug UK MP  Reply with quote

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7225556.stm

Police 'took MP bugging decision'

<Snippets from longer article>

A decision to bug a conversation between a Labour MP and his constituent was taken by a Thames Valley Police officer, the BBC understands.

But shadow home secretary David Davis said the case had exposed critical failings in the system.

"First that it's possible for the executive to ride roughshod over the relationship between a member of parliament and his constituents, the very basis of parliamentary democracy," he said.

"Second that the necessary authorisations for secret anti-terrorist activity may be being ignored."

BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson said he understood the decision to bug Mr Khan "was taken by Thames Valley Police", but that the MP "was not the target of the bugging".

The conversations alleged to have been recorded took place in 2005 and 2006 at Woodhill Prison, in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire.

They were between Mr Khan and Babar Ahmad - a constituent and childhood friend - who is in prison awaiting extradition to the US.

He is accused there of running websites supporting the Taleban and Chechen terrorists, though he faces no charges in the UK.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well he should have been bugged.

He is afterall an MP, so why associate himself with someone (friend or not) in prison awaiting deportation on distribution of suspect literature charges.

Its not a minor crime, he wasn't a burglar or a car thief. Anti terror police have a very hard job to do. If this is how they can get leads and stop any major threat, then so be it...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebel_with_a_cause wrote:
Well he should have been bugged.

He is afterall an MP, so why associate himself with someone (friend or not) in prison awaiting deportation on distribution of suspect literature charges.

Its not a minor crime, he wasn't a burglar or a car thief. Anti terror police have a very hard job to do. If this is how they can get leads and stop any major threat, then so be it...


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This has nothing to do with policing. This is an army matter. A traitor to the country is getting bugged. It just happens that one of the people contacting the traitor is an MP.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MPs are supposed to visit their constituents - that's their job - even if they are accused of a crime.

It is against the law to bug MPs.

No-one should be above the law - not the police, not the secret service and not the government.

If there is no respect for the law - then we descend into barbarity, despotism and anarchy.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmicdancer wrote:
MPs are supposed to visit their constituents - that's their job - even if they are accused of a crime.

It is against the law to bug MPs.

No-one should be above the law - not the police, not the secret service and not the government.

If there is no respect for the law - then we descend into barbarity, despotism and anarchy.


What about MARTIAL LAW in time of war?
Many countries inact such laws to protect the country against traitors, which we see a lot of them recently.
The safety of the couontry and its residents MUST be on the top of the list.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baal wrote:
Rebel_with_a_cause wrote:
Well he should have been bugged.

He is afterall an MP, so why associate himself with someone (friend or not) in prison awaiting deportation on distribution of suspect literature charges.

Its not a minor crime, he wasn't a burglar or a car thief. Anti terror police have a very hard job to do. If this is how they can get leads and stop any major threat, then so be it...


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This has nothing to do with policing. This is an army matter. A traitor to the country is getting bugged. It just happens that one of the people contacting the traitor is an MP.


Yes, I agree with you, Baal.

Some persons take advantage of democracy and freedom to their own advatage.
Those are traitors.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmicdancer wrote:
MPs are supposed to visit their constituents - that's their job - even if they are accused of a crime.

It is against the law to bug MPs.

No-one should be above the law - not the police, not the secret service and not the government.

If there is no respect for the law - then we descend into barbarity, despotism and anarchy.

Actually it is not against the British law to bug MPs. They were just promised that they won't be bugged.

And what happened in that jail was actually interesting. The MP did not indicate to the Police that he is visiting that terrorist. So he walked in on a guy that is already bugged.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baal wrote:
cosmicdancer wrote:
MPs are supposed to visit their constituents - that's their job - even if they are accused of a crime.

It is against the law to bug MPs.

No-one should be above the law - not the police, not the secret service and not the government.

If there is no respect for the law - then we descend into barbarity, despotism and anarchy.

Actually it is not against the British law to bug MPs. They were just promised that they won't be bugged.

And what happened in that jail was actually interesting. The MP did not indicate to the Police that he is visiting that terrorist. So he walked in on a guy that is already bugged.


Yeah, but should'nt we set up priorities.
Which comes first the national security or the feelings of Mps or others for that matter.

Look what we are doing.
We are fighting Islam, yet, we are trying to protect their (Muslims, the enemy)sensetive feelings.
Who cares. They are killing us for 1400 years!!
Enough is enough.

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