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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc.....  Reply with quote

Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc..... The devil and its servants not necessary Cerberus, hades guard dog, but if god is almighty why does he/she/it allow the influence of such evil creatures over mankind?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc.... Reply with quote

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Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc..... The devil and its servants not necessary Cerberus, hades guard dog, but if god is almighty why does he/she/it allow the influence of such evil creatures over mankind?


Apparently to keep the balance between good and evil to prepare for man's ultimate test after he has been equipped with free choice. At least this is the theological version!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc..... The devil and its servants not necessary Cerberus, hades guard dog, but if god is almighty why does he/she/it allow the influence of such evil creatures over mankind?


Apparently to keep the balance between good and evil to prepare for man's ultimate test after he has been equipped with free choice. At least this is the theological version!


Interesting, so God allows direct or indirect influence of "His children" by evil to test the ability of free choice, theologically speaking of course. But, what about the difference of influence from different theologies and even different sects of the same theology including thought differential in the same sects?

To give an example of what I mean I will use Dante Alighieri "The Divine Comedy" or Dante's Inferno. Part of the reason why some called Dante Alighieri a heretic was for believing when Satan was cast down into hell he had no influence on mankind and only free choice determined destination. That is why when Dante wrote about the ninth level of hell Satan was frozen in a lake.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KrisP wrote:
Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc..... The devil and its servants not necessary Cerberus, hades guard dog, but if god is almighty why does he/she/it allow the influence of such evil creatures over mankind?


Apparently to keep the balance between good and evil to prepare for man's ultimate test after he has been equipped with free choice. At least this is the theological version!


Interesting, so God allows direct or indirect influence of "His children" by evil to test the ability of free choice, theologically speaking of course. But, what about the difference of influence from different theologies and even different sects of the same theology including thought differential in the same sects?

To give an example of what I mean I will use Dante Alighieri "The Divine Comedy" or Dante's Inferno. Part of the reason why some called Dante Alighieri a heretic was for believing when Satan was cast down into hell he had no influence on mankind and only free choice determined destination. That is why when Dante wrote about the ninth level of hell Satan was frozen in a lake.


May be Dante wanted to hint that "Satan" has been innocent all long and it's time for us to take responsibility of our own actions and not keep blaming an imaginary poor creature!

The balance of good and evil almost exists in every single religion, spiritual dogma and philosophy. Why? Because this is how many man thinks and it transpired in all what he produced.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Krispy, why didn't you answer my counter question of "Why not?"? It's not as frivolous as it might seem on the surface. It actually means a great deal. I had good reason for asking that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Einstein. When am I going to bask in the glory of all those glorious flashing blue lights like you? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Einstein. When am I going to bask in the glory of all those glorious flashing blue lights like you? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dear Krispy, why didn't you answer my counter question of "Why not?"? It's not as frivolous as it might seem on the surface. It actually means a great deal. I had good reason for asking that.


Sorry Mutley, I understand the question is not as frivolous as it may seem but I currently don't have the time to debate the whys and why not. One day, maybe you and I will debate the meaning of life and why god created the three-toed sloth, but as of now I just don't have the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars, etc.... Reply with quote

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Satan, anti-Christ, Jinns, Cerberus, familiars,  etc..... The devil and its servants not necessary Cerberus, hades guard dog, but if god is almighty why does he/she/it allow the influence of such evil creatures over mankind?


Freedom.  Full-spectrum freedom to be.  Free will.  You can just as easily ask why does God allow people to do bad things, without any higher life forms, and the answer would be the same.


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