The Absurdities of Christianity & The New Testament

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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: The Absurdities of Christianity & The New Testament

The title of the topic here has been rightly described by the author as "Christianity The peak of the Greek Tragedy is embodied in this somewhat confusing religion." Christianity IS indeed a very confusing religion and since it was founded by a fairly large group of confused men, we shall look into the absurdities that created the confusion and have become part and parcel of this religion. I will start with an absurdity for discussions and when it is over, I will enlighten the folks with another and continue talking about this very confusing and confounding religion. Absurdities have to be discussed in details and replies, if any, should have substance, not questions such as "So?", "And why?", "Then?" and one-liners will neither be appreciated nor entertained. I need a forum to discuss this and this will be the only place, where I would like to continue writing. I would appreciate full cooperation from all. For matters pertaining to Arabic language and other important points, which require clarifications and comments, I would request All_Brains to step in as a Moderator for this topic. Thanks & Best Regards to all BMZ

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Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:

lol!

There are so many. Do you think it would be better to start with the 2nd biggest absurdity, commonly known as Trinity?

I don't want to start with the biggest absurdity which is "Jesus is God". You can also quote some.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:41 am Post subject:

Shut up and say something _________________ If it is peace you want, seek to change yourself, not other people. It is easier to protect your feet with slippers than to carpet the whole of the earth. --Anthony DeMello

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:26 am Post subject:

Oof! The Trinity has had an extremely long and convoluted history, with many good books and articles dedicated to this topic. I shudder to think what might come out of this… Thusly: _________________

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:36 am Post subject:

Yeh bro BMZ, let's start with the second most absurdity _________________ And say: Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish. [The Quran ; 17:81]

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ab·surd /æbˈsɜrd, -ˈzɜrd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ab-surd, -zurd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. utterly or obviously senseless, illogical, or untrue; contrary to all reason or common sense; laughably foolish or false: an absurd explanation. –noun 2. the quality or condition of existing in a meaningless and irrational world. Now that you understand the definition of absurd, tell me what is absurd about the Trinity. Don't tell me why you don't believe in it, tell me why it's absurd. The only thing you can say is that God wouldn't or couldn't be that way, to which I would reply "why not?". Who says? _________________ If it is peace you want, seek to change yourself, not other people. It is easier to protect your feet with slippers than to carpet the whole of the earth. --Anthony DeMello

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:42 am Post subject:

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ab·surd /æbˈsɜrd, -ˈzɜrd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ab-surd, -zurd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. utterly or obviously senseless, illogical, or untrue; contrary to all reason or common sense; laughably foolish or false: an absurd explanation.
–noun
2. the quality or condition of existing in a meaningless and irrational world.

Now that you understand the definition of absurd, tell me what is absurd about the Trinity. Don't tell me why you don't believe in it, tell me why it's absurd. The only thing you can say is that God wouldn't or couldn't be that way, to which I would reply "why not?". Who says?

can you come back in 30 minutes, I will go and buy ya some bones
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And say: Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish.
[The Quran ; 17:81]

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:43 am Post subject:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

Mutley wrote:

can you come back in 30 minutes, I will go and buy ya some bones

Why don't you just answer my question?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:48 am Post subject:

Mutley wrote:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

Mutley wrote:

can you come back in 30 minutes, I will go and buy ya some bones

Why don't you just answer my question?

I thought you would like some bones first to behave, let me try and see if someone else can answer your barking without giving you any bones:

Upton Sinclair wrote in his book A Personal Jesus:

You perceive that those who tell the story cannot make up their mind whether Jesus is God or whether he is man. Truly it is a difficult problem, once you admit such thing as a possibility that God may take on form of a man and come down to earth. When he becomes man, is He man or is He still God? And how can He be betrayed, when He knows He is going to be betrayed? The legend never answers clearly for basically it is an absurdity and there can be no answer, nor even any rational thought on such subject.

If Jesus is God, He knows everything in advance. But in that case the procedure means nothing to Him, He is like an actor going through a role, and it must have been a rather tedious role to Omniscience. Is He doing it for the entertainment of children? If so, why not encourage the children to grow up mentally and face the truth? On the other hand, if he is a man and has the mind of a man, then he no longer knows the truth, he no longer posses the comfort of omniscience. The legend requires that we shall believe both these things at the same time; but manifestly, a man cannot know something and at the same time grop half-blindly as we human beings are doing all through our lives.

you can buy the book HERE but I'm not sure if they sell books to dogs though

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And say: Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish.
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