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Baal

Putting pop corn in the microwave.
AhmedBahgat

Baal wrote:
Putting pop corn in the microwave.


yep, it's showtime, don't forget your beer
HomoErectus

Mind if I bring a couple of chicks... AND a couple of sixpacks...

I'll make them sit in the front row - stark naked [not the sixpacks] ! Twisted Evil

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Baal

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
Putting pop corn in the microwave.


yep, it's showtime, don't forget your beer

You prefer Luxor or Stella?
Defender of Islam

this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy
AhmedBahgat

Baal wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
Putting pop corn in the microwave.


yep, it's showtime, don't forget your beer

You prefer Luxor or Stella?


I stopped drinking about 16 years ago, pal

alcohol is the shitest thing I have ever tried in my life

remember what I said:

Bring YOUR beer

not bring the beer
Baal

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
Putting pop corn in the microwave.


yep, it's showtime, don't forget your beer

You prefer Luxor or Stella?


I stopped drinking about 16 years ago, pal

alcohol is the shitest thing I have ever tried in my life

remember what I said:

Bring YOUR beer

not bring the beer

One Stella coming up, want butter with your Ham Sandwich or without butter?
Baal

Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy

I love this 'mocking' thing. Anything you discuss with a muslim, any subject you bring forward, and you are mocking.
HomoErectus

Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy


The point is, it is so surprisingly EASY to "mock" islam, or a muslim...

Since the quran and ahadith are so full of nonsense, inconsistencies, errors, mistakes, faults, misunderstandings, and fairy tales - anything you say, commenting or criticizing islam, is already MOCKING IT !!!!

You [muslims] may be used to shut up and not question anything in your socalled "holy scriptures" - WE are used to ask questions and dig deep into stuff...

You better get used to what you call "mocking", since the questioning and criticizing will not come to a stop, its rather just beginning...

WE [west] will surely NOT shut up - its rather time for the muslims in muslim countries to start waking up... to the call of reality and reason, instead of blindly following cultish beliefs and rituals, remaining stuck in the 7th century !

We will help those muslims to wake up...

And think on their own !

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HomoErectus

By the way, this hadith...

To get Mr.Ahmmed to thinking beyond the binary logic !

Think about it, HOW many verses was it, originally, what COULD it have been ?

And what would the quran be, IF it had ALL those surahs... ?

WHO knows ?

Even "god" sometimes sent a "bettersurah" to abrogate another one, on the way...

strange manoevres in the dark !

I'm sssuuuuurrreee it is NOT VALID - is it ? Very Happy



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Baal

Ahmed wrote:

That is a question to which I can not provide a proof for my answer, my answer is simply that I firmly BELIEVE to be the case yet I can not provide assurance to it, therefore Iím not asking others to believe the same

Ha! Ahmed thinks that using comments from the hadith which he does not believe in, is the same as using quotes from the koran which he believes in.

When trying to disprove the hadith, which you do not believe in, you are trying to find some hadith that is contradictory to the hadith itself.

But it is a fallacy to prove the koran, which you believe in,  by using verses telling you "I am real".
HomoErectus

Baal wrote:
Ahmed wrote:

That is a question to which I can not provide a proof for my answer, my answer is simply that I firmly BELIEVE to be the case yet I can not provide assurance to it, therefore Iím not asking others to believe the same

Ha! Ahmed thinks that using comments from the hadith which he does not believe in, is the same as using quotes from the koran which he believes in. or not... as he says: "the hadith is nothing but conjectures exactly as the Quran being a conjecture"

When trying to disprove the hadith, which you do not believe in, you are trying to find some hadith that is contradictory to the hadith itself.

But it is a fallacy to prove the koran, which you believe in, †by using verses telling you "I am real".



Like you say, its the "buffet" mentality, not only muslims have that...
my mother too ! Very Happy
AhmedBahgat

Baal wrote:
Ahmed wrote:

That is a question to which I can not provide a proof for my answer, my answer is simply that I firmly BELIEVE to be the case yet I can not provide assurance to it, therefore Iím not asking others to believe the same

Ha! Ahmed thinks that using comments from the hadith which he does not believe in, is the same as using quotes from the koran which he believes in.

When trying to disprove the hadith, which you do not believe in, you are trying to find some hadith that is contradictory to the hadith itself.

But it is a fallacy to prove the koran, which you believe in, †by using verses telling you "I am real".


Idiot

I'm anot a hadith rejector, I just don't dicuss any hadith with the kafirs, I never said or claimed that I'm a ahdith rejector, however I reject the majority of the hadith

got it pal?
Defender of Islam

Baal wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy

I love this 'mocking' thing. Anything you discuss with a muslim, any subject you bring forward, and you are mocking.


of course you mock allah and his prophets i see it every day from you and other kafirs in the hell bound forum
Defender of Islam

HomoErectus wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy


The point is, it is so surprisingly EASY to "mock" islam, or a muslim...

Since the quran and ahadith are so full of nonsense, inconsistencies, errors, mistakes, faults, misunderstandings, and fairy tales - anything you say, commenting or criticizing islam, is already MOCKING IT !!!!

You [muslims] may be used to shut up and not question anything in your socalled "holy scriptures" - WE are used to ask questions and dig deep into stuff...

You better get used to what you call "mocking", since the questioning and criticizing will not come to a stop, its rather just beginning...

WE [west] will surely NOT shut up - its rather time for the muslims in muslim countries to start waking up... to the call of reality and reason, instead of blindly following cultish beliefs and rituals, remaining stuck in the 7th century !

We will help those muslims to wake up...

And think on their own !

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i think bahgat figured you out...go find your boyfriend
Defender of Islam

mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart
HomoErectus

Defender of Islam wrote:
HomoErectus wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy


The point is, it is so surprisingly EASY to "mock" islam, or a muslim...

Since the quran and ahadith are so full of nonsense, inconsistencies, errors, mistakes, faults, misunderstandings, and fairy tales - anything you say, commenting or criticizing islam, is already MOCKING IT !!!!

You [muslims] may be used to shut up and not question anything in your socalled "holy scriptures" - WE are used to ask questions and dig deep into stuff...

You better get used to what you call "mocking", since the questioning and criticizing will not come to a stop, its rather just beginning...

WE [west] will surely NOT shut up - its rather time for the muslims in muslim countries to start waking up... to the call of reality and reason, instead of blindly following cultish beliefs and rituals, remaining stuck in the 7th century !

We will help those muslims to wake up...

And think on their own !

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i think bahgat figured you out...go find your boyfriend



Really... ?

He better figure out something at least...

You know he [and you, obviously] is kinda LATE, still being entangled in fairy tales...

Usually, when people grow up, they leave the fables behind. classify them as TALES, and get on with the real life... yet you still LIVE in those shady tales...

Did you already snort out the devil form your nostrils today ?
HomoErectus

On a serious level...
And on a personal level !

Ahmad says this, in the discussion with A_B :


"But they have that touch of arrogance that the creation maybe a coincidence and not by God, those who want to believe must submit first that there must be One entity called God Who created all things that are working in such harmony



I had once made a thread regarding this point...

and will ask the same question here !

HOW do you "believe" ?

I [for instance] am not ABLE to do that !!

No insult intended here - but even if my upper consience would "decide" to become a "believer" - my subconscious would oppose this behaviour, and not LET me...

Ahmed says: "Those who WANT to believe..."

Can you "WANT" to believe, maybe so... but can you succeed in this ?

But what can you do, when you say "I'm a believer", and your other voice says "caca di buffalo !"

"Believing" is not a choice, in ones younger years... it is pounded into the childs brains !

Later on, you come to realize that its all a hoax, and you leave this "belief" behind, it gets replaced with REALITY and scientific researches, knowledge and experiences !

"Believing" is not something that you do deliberately, willingly, consciously - but BELOW the surface !

I CAN not "believe", and there's millions like me !

How you gonna MAKE them "believe" - by scaring them to death with quranic formulas ?

What you gonna say if I LAUGH at that ?

HOW could you possibly make an "un-believer" a "faithful person" ?

And at this point YOUR "god" [not mine !] wants to "punish" me ?

What for - he made me this way [in religious perspective] - why would he punish his own creation ?

Its ABSURD !

Like the whole belief-control-system called "Islam" !

Long live "Kaffir-dom" - I like it !

And its not really of any value what your strange "god" says or does, or prescribes, or not... he's a NOBODY to me, an invented pagan idol anyway !

Go from there...

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Tvebak

Baal wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
Putting pop corn in the microwave.


yep, it's showtime, don't forget your beer

You prefer Luxor or Stella?


Haven't tasted Luxor. What flavours can one get?
Tvebak

Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace
BMZ

Hello A_B

Thanks for drawing my attention to this section. I am very busy at some other sites full of hardcore Christians and on one where Christians are egged on by the FFI goon Anti-Jihad and others.

Will write more on the exchange between your goodself and Ahmed later but I have to say something about the latest question raised by you.

وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلاَئِكَةِ إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِي الأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً قَالُواْ أَتَجْعَلُ فِيهَا مَن يُفْسِدُ فِيهَا وَيَسْفِكُ الدِّمَاء وَنَحْنُ نُسَبِّحُ بِحَمْدِكَ وَنُقَدِّسُ لَكَ قَالَ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمون

The point is that Qur'aan simply clarifies what truly happened in the past and how past scriptures went through corruption and forgeries. If we keep this simple point in our minds, every piece fits the puzzle and bingo! we get the answer and the message.

The above verse abrogates the biblical verse that caused hell of a confusion which continues to be exploited by the Christians and this will go on forever. In the abrogated biblical scripture, it was reported that God said,"Let us make man in our own image."

This went on fine with the Jews as for 3,500 years, they knew that only God made the man. They knew well that the word 'us" or "Us" simply referred to God. And even today the Jews believe that. They never thought for a moment that there were two or three or more Gods sitting there and talking amongst themselves to create man in their own image.

The Jews also knew well that God was talking to those present in the Heavenly Place and those could have been Angels, Demons, Jinns and other creations, created earlier by God.

Came in the Christians after Jesus was long gone or vanished from the scene and looked for the two or three characters of the Trinity everywhere in the Jewish holy scriptures. Lo! and behold!,  they found it in the word Us or us in Genesis.  Laughing

This utter nonsense had to be repudiated and thus it was done away with accordingly and God told Muhammad in Qur'aan,"When your LORD said to the angels,'I am going to make man to rule the Earth......'"

Note that God did not use the royal We in this verse and clearly used First person singular.

Cheers
BMZ
BMZ

To: Baal, HE and Tvebak,

The author has written:"This thread is designed for you all to comment on this debate."

Please comment on the debate. lol!

BMZ
BMZ

Defender of Islam wrote:
Baal wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy

I love this 'mocking' thing. Anything you discuss with a muslim, any subject you bring forward, and you are mocking.


of course you mock allah and his prophets i see it every day from you and other kafirs in the hell bound forum


Hello and Salaam Alaikum,

Don't worry about Baal and others. Baal provides us with comical relief and interludes. lol!

All_Brains is no longer a Muslim but raises good questions and his language is never crude. Initially, I was also once harsh to him at FFI but I find him a better ex-Muslim among 'em all. †Laughing

I am sorry you have not met Anti-Jihad, who is a free-lance roaming troll all over the internet. He too provides comical relief but he suffers from verbal diarrhoea. lol! I am sure you will see him dirtying the place soon.

It also gives us a chance to explain to many other goons who come from Ali Sina's FFI and other ex-Muslim sites.

Have a nice stay.

BMZ
BMZ

Tvebak wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!
Tvebak

BMZ wrote:
Tvebak wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!


Dude I'm not a christian for crying out loud! You see christians all over the place lol.
The silly idea of love to Jesus to recieve salvation is equally stupid.

But I guess that you BMZ is proud of your omniscient being and his jealously behaviour. And again pointing to a similar stupidity of another religion does not make your religion any better.

Peace
Baal

Tvebak wrote:
BMZ wrote:
Tvebak wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!


Dude I'm not a christian for crying out loud! You see christians all over the place lol.
The silly idea of love to Jesus to recieve salvation is equally stupid.

But I guess that you BMZ is proud of your omniscient being and his jealously behaviour. And again pointing to a similar stupidity of another religion does not make your religion any better.

Peace

Don't discourage him from studying Christianity, it is better for his psyche then islam. He never got around the idea of "who created the creator", so he needs to have a creator close by.
HomoErectus

Ooh ooh, now ahmed the desperate muslim has to resort to quoting some "revert" muslim, and why he "did it"...

Quote:

Being a revert post-911, I think the reason there is such a steady growth in the religion is because...


First of all WHERE is this alleged GROWTH ?

Muslims are losing ground, everywhere you look !

And the always cited "breeding factor" is also just a hoax !

We all know that muslims in 2nd or 3rd generation have even lower "breeding numbers" than average western people...

Adding to this decline, many many muslims are nominal muslims only, after living the big bad west, they become intimidated, and naturally so !

How many confessions of muslims LEAVING this absurd "faith", could we bring up... ?

The quoted text from this "revert" is nothing but a joke !

Ahmed must be pretty desperate...

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AhmedBahgat

HomoErectus

Ahmed Bin't Ovar, you must have gotten something wrong here...

YOU are the SLAVE here, enjoying to be a slave, you're part of the "bend over culture" !

Bending over is so deeply ingrained into your "being", it has become part of you, walking upright is only an "intermezzo" to being bent over, your favourite position, your preferred position...  

And I think its good for you, so you don't feel the pain of being a slave in the first place !

To me it will make no difference, if you stay bent over all day long... Laughing

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BMZ

AhmedBahgat wrote:


lol!

Can you do one for the international Indian Troll Anti-Jihad, showing him bending down and falling on all fours? I can use it as my Avatar on some hostile and nasty sites.  Laughing

Cheers, mate
BMZ
HomoErectus

Well, it shows my avatar to be a very well mannered ERECTUS ! Very Happy

Its very different with mister Bag-Hat... as a typical bent-over !

He is permanently getting fudged from behind, he has an invisible kuffar dildo up his azz...



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