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Misconceptions about Islam?

Here's a University of Southern California Muslim Studies website which is authored by and run by devout Muslims. This particular section focuses on what are considered "misconceptions" about Islam. I found the definition of "sunnah" and "Misconception 2" quite frightening. Maybe you won't.

Here's the link:
Quote:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html


I was mildly against Islam prior to reading this link. For me, the only objection was that Allah does not get paid for sin in the Koran, so I couldn't accept it. Else, I had few problems with the text.

All that changed during this last (very sleepless) week. But the USC link above, BY Muslims, tipped the scales for me. I'm still trying to keep an open mind, maybe 99.9% of Muslims misunderstand their own book, and I'm learning the Arabic so I can see the text for myself. But I'd never follow what those people believe in the link, especially what's called "sunnah" there, which (imo) is Hitlerian.

Debate? Refute? Discuss? Debunk? Let it all begin!
katlike

The problem I have/had with that web site (and others) is this statement:
Quote:
The Messenger of Allah was nothing more and nothing less than a mortal messenger of the immortal Creator


If that is one of the biggest falsehoods known to man! That is why how many verses of the koran say [Obey allah and his messenger] that is why muslims rioted when pictures of mohammed ended up in cartoons, that is why there is a verse in the koran telling us to not bother mohammed at his house, that is why we have the ahadiths, that is why he had special laws to live by cause he was nothing more or nothing less than a mortal messenger. Please, what is a messenger? Your postal carrier is a messenger, you don't strive to live your live like your postman do you? Your newspaper publisher is a messenger, none of us go on a killing rampage when someone speaks critically of the editor.
It's just this kind of dishonesty that makes me crazy and puts me in a very suspicous mindframe when I read from sites like those. If the message was that important, why does anyone even remember who the messenger was?
brainout

Well, katlike, if you looked at the definition of "sunnah" on that page, you'd be even more angry, for it makes every jot and tittle of Muhammed's life something BY LAW a Muslim is supposed to emulate. That's why I blew my stack.

But there are many Muslimin who do not believe in the hadiths. MANY. Kinda like Christians who refuse to be Catholic or Odox or whatever instutionalized version arrogates to itself the sole right to 'interpret' Holy Writ. So don't classify all Muslims in with the mainstream. Just as in mainstream Christianity, there's so much misreading, it's not funny.

God is not people, thank God! Or I'd be an atheist, myself!
All_Brains

katlike wrote:
The problem I have/had with that web site (and others) is this statement:
Quote:
The Messenger of Allah was nothing more and nothing less than a mortal messenger of the immortal Creator


If that is one of the biggest falsehoods known to man! That is why how many verses of the koran say [Obey allah and his messenger] that is why muslims rioted when pictures of mohammed ended up in cartoons, that is why there is a verse in the koran telling us to not bother mohammed at his house, that is why we have the ahadiths, that is why he had special laws to live by cause he was nothing more or nothing less than a mortal messenger. Please, what is a messenger? Your postal carrier is a messenger, you don't strive to live your live like your postman do you? Your newspaper publisher is a messenger, none of us go on a killing rampage when someone speaks critically of the editor.
It's just this kind of dishonesty that makes me crazy and puts me in a very suspicous mindframe when I read from sites like those. If the message was that important, why does anyone even remember who the messenger was?


I believe this notion was aiming at the fact that people have a big tendency to clinch to the visible, in this case Muhammad!

It was feared that Muhammad himself be worshiped, so therefore he was shown as a moral messenger.

The statement provided above almost brags that Christianity has an immortal messenger and therefore it's better!

In my opinion this was done in Islam to achieve the ultimate focus on the mission at hand "spread Islam in any way" and make Muhammad in a way a "superhero" by subtly impersonalising him.

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