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All_Brains

Ummah.com

I have no doubt in my mind that Islam is a fake religion protected by evil people or ignorant people who don't have the brain capacity to verify its dark doctrine.

It took Ummah.com only a couple of days to ban me! None was able to answer any of my questions, so what to do!?
Ban All_Brains quickly before he shows the masses the hidden hadiths, sirahs and the nice abrogated Surahs...

Just browsing this retarded forum proved to me the culture of Muslims. The forum was full of prayers and wishy washy comments that have neither substance nor proof or reference.

I am so glad I am out of this evil cult and will do my best to get as many out of the chains as I can.

Please find below reference for the thread in which I was banned! They're stupid enough to keep my posts though! LOL

So, go in there quickly and have a look before they delete them!

All_Brains banned!
XXX

Did you say anything in particular that got you banned?
All_Brains

XXX wrote:
Did you say anything in particular that got you banned?


Have a look at the thread and judge for yourself. I added a link in the first post.

Even some Muslims came on and criticized the Mods for banning me because I am an apostate. I got banned for mentioning an authentic hadith and correct a non-Arab Muslim for mis-interpreting a certain word in the hadith..

I will try to post the reason for ban, if sent me an e-mail that is!
All_Brains

There you go, here is the reason why I was banned.

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DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL!
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Dear All_Brains,

You have received a new private message at Ummah.com - Muslim Forum from Te'oma, entitled "You have received an infraction at Ummah.com - Muslim Forum".

To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:
http://www.ummah.com/forum/private.php

This is the message that was sent:
***************
Dear All_Brains,

You have received an infraction at Ummah.com - Muslim Forum.

Reason: you aren't here to learn
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You already think that you have the answers
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This infraction is worth 30 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires.  Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2310217#post2310217

---Quote---
---Quote (Originally by GreatMuslim10)---
I think that Te'oma thought that you may be misinterpreting the hadith.  When the Prophet says fight, he doesn't necessarily mean through force and violence.  Quite frankly, he was a peaceful man.  Despite what the mainstream media will have you believe, the Prophet actually discouraged wars not waged in self defense.
---End Quote---
The Prophet of Islam used the word "Okatel" which literally means to fight in order to kill, as the verb is derived from the noun "katl" which mean killing.

I am a native Arabic speaker, so I do quite know the meaning of the word.

What's is your response to the above?

Also, by the way there many haidths and Sirahs (Ibn Hisham and Ibn Shaq) that shows the prophet of Islam to be very combative in nature.

Banu Quraizah's incident is a very clear example of this notion. Can you please convince me otherwise.
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Tvebak

Well it seems, from this thread, that ummah.com is not about discussing the faith of islam, but conveying an already composed idea of the faith islam, ie. interpretation is "no go"

This comment by Hisham Abu is clear on that:

Quote:
Our job is to deliver the message, not to win arguments or prove anything.


Cheers
All_Brains

Tvebak wrote:
Well it seems, from this thread, that ummah.com is not about discussing the faith of islam, but conveying an already composed idea of the faith islam, ie. interpretation is "no go"

This comment by Hisham Abu is clear on that:

Quote:
Our job is to deliver the message, not to win arguments or prove anything.


Cheers


Exactly right! They have a thread there though called "Comparative Religion", so you'd think that want to measure themselves against the competition.

Anyway, they're really helpless and some of them have no idea about the Quran or Hadith. Disappointing really!
ygalg

what is your impression of History and THHuxley?
how about share your experience at FFI?
ygalg

irrational suggestion on Muhammad's quality "the Prophet was a realist"
ygalg

XXX wrote:
Did you say anything in particular that got you banned?

you know how it goes; you say something accordingly to historical records and evidences and you get banned. say something Politically Correct and not coherent to the evidence/history, you up to the forum standards.  Rolling Eyes
All_Brains

ygalg wrote:
what is your impression of History and THHuxley?
how about share your experience at FFI?


I have just posted this in FFI for maximum exposure.
katlike

I have been banned a couple of times from there. (there are some muslimahs over there that really stick me in the craw and I cannot say I was very nice to them) I do think one of my nicks is still alive, but was being closely monitered.  I haven't posted in quite some time.
What I have found over there is they do a lot of copy and paste of different kafir Hallmark Cards and email forwards with them never providing a link and pretty much claiming it for themselves.  The islamic plundering the rest of us are aware of.
Baal

AllBrains started as an apostate, so already he had his virtual infraction points. Many muslims find it really hard to even imagine someone leaving them let alone talking to one.

And muslims will only talk about peace when talking with non-muslims specially westerners. Among themselves, peace is not even an issue to discuss. It is understood among them that peace will only happen when the whole world become muslim.
They call me Tater Salad

Not that it has much to do with your being banned or the thread topic you started, but this sentence almost made me LOL (from an American "revert"--"GreatMuslim10):

Quote:
Yeah, I have to agree with you on that one. America used to be about a nation of peace. That is until Thomas Jefferson died. Since then, we have become a nation of world policing. America keeps intervening into other countries' businesses, acting like the big bad boss on the playground.


If this person knew anything about American history and Thomas Jefferson (specifically about the Barbary Wars), he wouldn't be sounding so smart.  Jefferson was the one who said "not one penny for tribute!", as in, Algiers had been bleeding the US dry by charging a tribute (extortion money) for protection from the Barbary pirates.  

Thomas Jefferson's refusal to continue to be the dhimmi actually began the tensions between Islam and the US, and that is the reason we have the Marines today!  It's also why Jefferson had a copy of the Quran sent to him so he could "know the enemy".  I wish people would actually learn history...
They call me Tater Salad

Oh, and All_Brains,

I'm seriously not suprised to hear that you were banned.  Nothing challenging is allowed, although it sounded like a couple of people actually would welcome the debate.  Perhaps those are the ones who don't know how transparent Islam really is.  Maybe the ones who didn't want you there know that and so can't tolerate opposition.

But we still love you!  Very Happy
infidel

One of the poster over there even said that " we are here to give messege and not for winning arguments". Meaning that they can't talk logically but talk rubbish.

This is the common mentality among mobots.

My suggestion is someone like A-B, Baal, A-F etc should join that forum pretending to be muslim. Talk to them in their language (literally) and expose there true faces and true colors like Ali Sina did with the terrorist.
ygalg

All_Brains wrote:
ygalg wrote:
what is your impression of History and THHuxley?
how about share your experience at FFI?


I have just posted this in FFI for maximum exposure.

excellent.
katlike

What really offended me was 2 things, the idiot who said "yuck" when they learned All_Brains was an apostate...and when they all ganged up against the guy who said All_Brains shouldn't be banned as discussion was a good thing.  They are pretty brain dead over there.  The good thing about ummah.com is I refer people there that claim the usual nonsense about islam, they always leave ummah with a bad taste in their mouth.
ygalg

btw don't forget to post it at councilofexmuslims
ygalg

islamists like to resort to Tu Quoque when presented Muhammad's treatment of Jews of Medina they show that moses did the same.

but have not paid attention that the bible tells that Israel made peace with target nation have not resorted in beheading nor killing. where Muhammad received a shelter from the Jews and instead be grateful to them, he retort with war and behead the men who gave him a shelter.
OJ Smoke

Re: Ummah.com

All_Brains wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Islam is a fake religion protected by evil people or ignorant people who don't have the brain capacity to verify its dark doctrine.

It took Ummah.com only a couple of days to ban me! None was able to answer any of my questions, so what to do!?
Ban All_Brains quickly before he shows the masses the hidden hadiths, sirahs and the nice abrogated Surahs...

Just browsing this retarded forum proved to me the culture of Muslims. The forum was full of prayers and wishy washy comments that have neither substance nor proof or reference.

I am so glad I am out of this evil cult and will do my best to get as many out of the chains as I can.

Please find below reference for the thread in which I was banned! They're stupid enough to keep my posts though! LOL

So, go in there quickly and have a look before they delete them!

All_Brains banned!


AllBrains, I don't think that Ummah.Com is meant to be a debate site. I've never accessed that site before although I heard so much of that site.........There are certain forums that encourage debate and there are others that don't.

Your site and Ali Sina's sites are ones that were created specifically for debate......Many of the Muslims on Ummah.com are not accustomed to such accusations and they wouldn't know how to handle it.....Honestly, many Muslims do know their religion but they are not experienced in dealing with criticism of their faith. Muslims like Bassam Zawadi or Jalal Abualrub are rare and aren't see often...........

I was banned repeatedly on some Paltalk room titled, "Why I am not a Muslim" and now I am never allowed to access that chatroom again..... Laughing

I made no threats to anyone, I neither swore nor did I ever insult at all, but I was still banned.........AllBrains, did you do anything worthy of being banned? Did you ever insult anyone or threaten them or disrespect them at all or did you criticize Islam in a respectful way like you usually do.....



I don't think that Ummah.Com was meant to be a debate site in the first place, so maybe that is why they got rid of you......There are hardly any Muslim forums that invite criticism anyway........

Anyways, have a nice day
Mutley

Re: Ummah.com

OJ Smoke wrote:
All_Brains wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Islam is a fake religion protected by evil people or ignorant people who don't have the brain capacity to verify its dark doctrine.

It took Ummah.com only a couple of days to ban me! None was able to answer any of my questions, so what to do!?
Ban All_Brains quickly before he shows the masses the hidden hadiths, sirahs and the nice abrogated Surahs...

Just browsing this retarded forum proved to me the culture of Muslims. The forum was full of prayers and wishy washy comments that have neither substance nor proof or reference.

I am so glad I am out of this evil cult and will do my best to get as many out of the chains as I can.

Please find below reference for the thread in which I was banned! They're stupid enough to keep my posts though! LOL

So, go in there quickly and have a look before they delete them!

All_Brains banned!


AllBrains, I don't think that Ummah.Com is meant to be a debate site. I've never accessed that site before although I heard so much of that site.........There are certain forums that encourage debate and there are others that don't.

Your site and Ali Sina's sites are ones that were created specifically for debate......Many of the Muslims on Ummah.com are not accustomed to such accusations and they wouldn't know how to handle it.....Honestly, many Muslims do know their religion but they are not experienced in dealing with criticism of their faith. Muslims like Bassam Zawadi or Jalal Abualrub are rare and aren't see often...........

I was banned repeatedly on some Paltalk room titled, "Why I am not a Muslim" and now I am never allowed to access that chatroom again..... Laughing

I made no threats to anyone, I neither swore nor did I ever insult at all, but I was still banned.........AllBrains, did you do anything worthy of being banned? Did you ever insult anyone or threaten them or disrespect them at all or did you criticize Islam in a respectful way like you usually do.....



I don't think that Ummah.Com was meant to be a debate site in the first place, so maybe that is why they got rid of you......There are hardly any Muslim forums that invite criticism anyway........

Anyways, have a nice day


I've been there. They will indeed entertain all forms of debate for a while, but when they can no longer give you good answers, they find some way to get rid of you. So if they have the answers, questions and debate are good. And when they don't, questions and debate will not be tolerated. Pretty simple to see.
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

I used to post on Ummah.com quite a lot. Then I stopped but returned about a year later. I do enjoy it there, though many characters nauseate me. And most of the muslims there have that particularly Islamic peculiarity of quoting huge tracts of mind–numbingly dry nonsense masquerading as ‘arguments’ to the point that I simply press the ‘Page Down’ button on my keyboard to skip to the next post.

However, I do like some folks on that forum (such as one particular Jew I’ve had discussions with). None of them know my personal personal details, and I wondered what people here thought of the idea that I publicise my apostasy there. The Islamic New Year starts in approximately 7 days (1st of Muharram), and I figured New Year would make a good time to announce the entry of the Muharram Murtad…

Bad idea?
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

No thoughts on that whatsoever…?
All_Brains

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
No thoughts on that whatsoever…?


You will be banned there on the spot!
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

I figured as much. I once got banned for ‘doubting’ the authenticity of a hadith. Oh wait, I think I insulted Abu Hurairah, the guy who’d narrated it. But in my message it claimed they had banned me for ‘no reason’! Laughing
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

Well, I did it. And they closed my thread within ˝–an–hour. One particular woman’s reaction really really touched me. A kind and gentle soul, I believe she would undoubtedly act that way whatever religion (or no) she followed. Quite a few made derogatory comments and claimed I had posted it to spread ‘fitnah’, calling for the moderators to ban me, etc. I liked all the pos–rep points I received for my thread though — but it mostly consisted of people asking me to reconsider my position. I simply don’t believe in any accepted notions of divinity. How can I reconsider my ‘position’?

Choice quote: “are you serious, dont bs us.

man i bet this fool is some dude that had this planned out beforehand and is just here to start fitnah.”

Rolling Eyes

Hilariously, though people expressed disapproval, anger and sadness at my announcing my apostasy, they didn’t really grow enraged until they thought I had insulted Muhammad. Typical. Blaspheme against Allah all you want (I’d fucking said I don’t believe in GOD! How much worse can it get for a muslim!?), but the instant I made a comment about Muhammad I had my thread closed down. And they say they worship Allah alone…?
Mutley

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:

Hilariously, though people expressed disapproval, anger and sadness at my announcing my apostasy, they didn’t really grow enraged until they thought I had insulted Muhammad. Typical. Blaspheme against Allah all you want (I’d fucking said I don’t believe in GOD! How much worse can it get for a muslim!?), but the instant I made a comment about Muhammad I had my thread closed down. And they say they worship Allah alone…?


OMG !!!!  That is so funny, and at the same time, so true.  Laughing  Laughing I'd post a cartoon here if I didn't think people's shops will get looted and burned down.  Laughing   Laughing
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

I can imagine you, sitting there behind your computer screen, laughing like Mutley the Dog in your avatar! Very Happy
Mutley

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
I can imagine you, sitting there behind your computer screen, laughing like Mutley the Dog in your avatar! Very Happy


Absolutely. One of my favorite phrases that I have read goes like this:

We're all crazy, and the only reason we're not all institutionalized is because there are so many of us.  Laughing   Laughing
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

Laughing I do like that!
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

Wow. Now I received a warning AND had my thread actually DELETED! The buggers…
They call me Tater Salad

I lurk there quite a bit, but I hadn't noticed posts of yours recently, Pazuzu.

I just want to say congratulations for having the guts to apostasize (?) publicly and on a Muslim forum like Ummah!  Cool I read the thread yesterday.  Cartman is an a$$ both on SP and on Ummah.  Laughing

They need to see more of those kinds of posts--then hopefully they'll realize that it's not some "christian missionary" conspiracy and that people actually DO leave Islam...


BTW, your avatar sort of freaks me out...  Shocked
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

GOOD! It should Very Happy.

And I post at Ummah using the name Mr ®hizomati©. My thread had a brief ˝–hour of existence before they subjected it to a post–natal abortion Crying or Very sad.
They call me Tater Salad

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
GOOD! It should Very Happy.

And I post at Ummah using the name Mr ®hizomati©. My thread had a brief ˝–hour of existence before they subjected it to a post–natal abortion Crying or Very sad.


Yeah I know--I saw that you had a lot of posts (over 1,000) but I've been lurking there for nearly a year and only sort of recognized your "name" when I read your "I'm leaving" thread.  I did get to see it, btw...only 1/2 an hour???  I must have gotten there just in time!  Surprised

I'm pro-life and  I 'm saddened by the surgical barbarity that your thread endured...it had soooo much potential.
Baal

Next time do what I do when I post in islamic (and western nanny) forums. I take a picture of each page or each relevant post.

Start a HD directory for each forum and then create a directory for each relevant forum that you will backup. In that sub-directory, add the pictures or the copy/paste from the text.
HomoErectus

Whow, you make screenshots of 'em ?
Or are you saving the pages as a whole... with pics ?

Anyway, you must have quite some hard-drives !
Pazuzu bin Hanbi

File and Save As, my friend! You’ll save the html web pages, but all pictures will download into a separate folder, activated when you open the page on your hard drive. I wish I’d done that. :sigh emoticon:
HomoErectus

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
File and Save As, my friend! You’ll save the html web pages, but all pictures will download into a separate folder, activated when you open the page on your hard drive. I wish I’d done that. :sigh emoticon:


Yes, I know, I did the same for a while, saving threads which I thought were "important", also to refer to, later on...

I don't do it anymore, although I now and then save my profile-listings of posts that I've made, so I can easily return to them !
But this will not work when the pages were hacked and the database had been destroyed...
Thats when try to bite my behind then... Very Happy

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