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AhmedBahgat
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject:

there was a NOT missing in my comment i meant do NOT sowllow that crap called hadith science _________________ And say: Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish. [The Quran ; 17:81]

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

there was a NOT missing in my comment

i meant do NOT sowllow that crap called hadith science

I figured that out. It seemed clear that you had missed typing that in.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject:

good that you figured it out, I always miss plenty of NOTs not sure that swollow is the right spelling, I donlt care as long as you can understand what I mean, I really have no time to spell check everything I type _________________ And say: Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish. [The Quran ; 17:81]

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:13 am Post subject:

In Islam, Being a mushrik is an implicit crime that opens the door to many Hudud (punishments) to be applied. If you goto to Egypt and claim you are a 'koranist' they will throw you in jail. Which makes them not different then you, if you had power over them, you considering them mushriks, will also expose them to being thrown in jail. Great going muslim.

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:40 am Post subject:

Now Ahmet, I must say I do agree with you, albeit from a different perspective. The cold, callous cruelty found in many hadits is appalling. I don't mind the stupidity, but the violence is repulsive. But tell me, don't we also find repulsive cruelty in the Koran? What about sura 9 for instance?

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

Wiking wrote:

Now Ahmet, I must say I do agree with you, albeit from a different perspective. The cold, callous cruelty found in many hadits is appalling. I don't mind the stupidity, but the violence is repulsive. But tell me, don't we also find repulsive cruelty in the Koran? What about sura 9 for instance?

No mate, I could not find anything cruel in the Quran other than the hell punishment, now that is not in this life nor it will be enforced by humans, and I do acceot the cruelty of god regardinig pushing those who reject his guidance, it's fair in my books
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:00 am Post subject:

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I find it cruel that "god" and his messengers are supposed to have 1/5 share of the booty. Just a mentioning of booty and war is a portrait of cruelty in my opinion.

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:05 am Post subject:

you have read ALL the hadiths? wow!!!!! have you studied the science of the hadiths? if so i find it a bit weird how you can deny some of the authenticity when some(about 40) have great isnads that go back to muhammad.

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:22 am Post subject:

Tvebak wrote:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

Wiking wrote:

I find it cruel that "god" and his messengers are supposed to have 1/5 share of the booty. Just a mentioning of booty and war is a portrait of cruelty in my opinion.

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Hello

The money is not going to their pockets, the money is to establish the strong Islamic state and make it self sufficient regarding finance

In australia I found it cruel that I have to fukin pay 46% of my salary evey month as tax, however I do understand that the money collected will be spent back on building a stronger and more prosper state, not be taken in their pockets
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:33 am Post subject:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

Tvebak wrote:

AhmedBahgat wrote:

Wiking wrote:

I find it cruel that "god" and his messengers are supposed to have 1/5 share of the booty. Just a mentioning of booty and war is a portrait of cruelty in my opinion.

Cheers

Hello

But the government is not waging a war on you are they? killing people to get your taxmoney?

It's the idea of booty and war. You cannot seriously compare this to taxes.

Cheers

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