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Are these Qu'ran contradictions? I'm not sure they all are.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Look mister desperate, it's 12:30 am and I'm at work getting the shit that I need to take with me to Cairo in about 12 hours from now, yet I have about 3 hours to go at work

no time pal to reply to your desperation

see you in 6 days inshaallah
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look mister desperate, it's 12:30 am and I'm at work getting the shit that I need to take with me to Cairo in about 12 hours from now, yet I have about 3 hours to go at work

no time pal to reply to your desperation

see you in 6 days inshaallah


Why can't you have a normal debate without calling your 'opponnent' names or the like? Well it's your matter. And sorry you there's n desperation in my statement.

Well anyways yes, 12 hours that's a long time, spending in a plane. Have a safe flight.

and take care Ahmed

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tvebak wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Look mister desperate, it's 12:30 am and I'm at work getting the shit that I need to take with me to Cairo in about 12 hours from now, yet I have about 3 hours to go at work

no time pal to reply to your desperation

see you in 6 days inshaallah


Why can't you have a normal debate without calling your 'opponnent' names or the like? Well it's your matter. And sorry you there's n desperation in my statement.

Well anyways yes, 12 hours that's a long time, spending in a plane. Have a safe flight.

and take care Ahmed

Best wishes



Hmmm, is mentioning your desperation is a name calling?

well, you are not my opponnent in a friendly game, we are indeed enemies, that is logically speaking

however I have to say it TV, i do like you but that won't change the fact that we are enemies regarding religion

yep I will have 6 days with no sleep, hope I can manage to do it, my flight from Sydney to Cairo is almost direct with one hour stop in Abu Dhabi, I could not find a return ticket to make it in 72 hours so I had to book one way going and one way back, believe it or not, 6 grands in total, if I found a return ticket, then it would have costed 2 grands, what a fukin difference mate, well the company is paying not me, LOL

BTW, for you to accuse me of calling you names while I only mentioned your desperation is a clear cut case of desperation,  Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Hmmm, is mentioning your desperation is a name calling?

BTW, for you to accuse me of calling you names while I only mentioned your desperation is a clear cut case of desperation,  Laughing


lol no I'm just tired of the negative tone displayed on FFI. And yes I do think using the word 'desperate' does carry some negativity, but alright I wont be a cry-baby over it, and we can agree to use it as expressing ourself.

AhmedBahgat wrote:
well, you are not my opponnent in a friendly game, we are indeed enemies, that is logically speaking

however I have to say it TV, i do like you but that won't change the fact that we are enemies regarding religion


Well we have disagree here aswell. I don't consider you as my 'enemy'. I consider you as a person, with some personal outlooks on the world, which I disagrees with; an 'opponnent' in matters of opinion. Not an enemy  Wink

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yep I will have 6 days with no sleep, hope I can manage to do it, my flight from Sydney to Cairo is almost direct with one hour stop in Abu Dhabi, I could not find a return ticket to make it in 72 hours so I had to book one way going and one way back, believe it or not, 6 grands in total, if I found a return ticket, then it would have costed 2 grands, what a fukin difference mate, well the company is paying not me, LOL

Salam


I know the feeling. And yes I've been irritated by the the flightcompanies policy about one-way tickets vs. return-tickets. And this was my own pocket.  Smile

Well this got out of track so I will just post my comment again:

Tvebak wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Baal wrote:
The story is BS. You are in the middle of the desert. You see some light, you have no clue what it is, you go alone?! and you send the leader? and you send the leader alone?

Also although both verses mean the same, what moses said in each verse is different. He meant the same though. You can blame it on the fact that he was not speaking arabic and the koran was just trying to translate what moses said.

But now we have an issue Ahmed, which of the Two verses is the better translation for what Moses said?


mister baal

Allah is telling us the story USING HIS OWN words, then He told us the story again, using His own different words but same context then  He told us about it for the third time using His own different words and still same context, This is the miracle of the Quran, pal

Allah is not reading to us a log book of what is excatly been said

don't act desperate as Tv

cheers


Look Ahmed first of all I'm not acting desperate, but that's your typical personal attack you are pulling to try to boost your argument, and it's in my opinion a low act. I'm simply just pointing to a place in the Quran where I see there's conflicting information. It's a very simple case, as stated in my earlier comment.

Your earlier argument was that Moses should have said the different things, but now you are arguing that the verses is not actually showing what Moses said, but what "god" would like to say that Moses said, not being precise. It's just "gods" "various depiction" on what Moses said. None of them is necissarily "correct" quote cause they are just "god" "using his own words to tell a story".

LOL. I actually like this explanation better. There's a more sophisticated fantasy at work now  Wink . But basicly you are manipulating the words of the quran now. The quran very clearly said that this was what Moses said, using "qala" قَالَ , right? It's right there in the verses. So now you are suggesting that we are not to trust the quran when it gives a quote. And why not? Because otherwise the quran will show us conflicting informations. And we cannot have that, cause it supposed to be the "word of "god"".

Cheers


And you will answer insallah or as I would say, if you want to and if you remember it.

all the best.


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