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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Hell - Youtube Video  Reply with quote

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Hi Everyone

I just uploaded another video on youtube about Hell and although my questions are mainly aimed at Muslims, I thought people here might be interested to have a look.

Of course anyone is welcome to reply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd1P8SPcXPY


ps - sorry for the poor sound quality again Baal - you will need to turn the volume right up. (I must invest in a proper Mic - or you in some powerful speakers Wink lol)


Hello CD,

I watched the video and tried my best to make out whatever I could. First I must appreciate that you are a nice, kind and a loving person.  

You put yourself up on the video, which puts hideous men like Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq, Ibn Saleeb and others to shame for hiding behind a veil. You have joined the category of the bold ladies like Maryam Namazie, Wafa Sultan and others. You live in a country where there are plenty of Muslims and it shows how murtads are safe there.

I have three questions. After talking about 'burning and burning and burning', you said,"What for? Rape? Murder?" I could hear that.

Do you consider that murder and rape are very light crimes against humanity?

Do you think a murderer and a rapist should not be sent to hell?

Why did you pick on Islam and Qur'aan only?

Salaams
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Hello BMZ

Until CD comes back with his comments on these questions, please allow me to share mine.

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Do you consider that murder and rape are very light crimes against humanity?


No, I don't consider the above crimes to be light. In the meantime I think that the punishment should equal the crime.

The idea of punishment is to let the criminal reflect on the crime, feel remorse then rehabilitate to join the humanity once more in an improved and better form.

I don't support the death penalty like many of the civilized nations nowadays. Life sentence is the maximum I would support as punishment.

Now....How is eternal torture in hell equals momentarily criminal act on earth? How would such punishment do any good to anyone? Unless Allah is a Sadist being who takes pleasure in inflecting pain on others? How can you attribute such being a merciful in this instance?

Simply eternal torture directly contradicts with the commonsensical rationale of punishment and surely does not reflect a merciful God!

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Do you think a murderer and a rapist should not be sent to hell?


The concept of an eternal hell in itself is nonsensical. The above criminal can be separated from societies until fully rehabilitated, their freedom can be taken away from them as an interim punishment....

Eternal torture is just simply idiotic....It's exactly as if you punishing a 6 years old child for eating chocolate without your permission by cutting off his tongue, peeling his skin, gouging his eyes, then finally chop off their head for good measure...but WAIT THERE IS MORE! We will give this child his life back for eternity, so that we can find new ways of killing this disobedient kid! Quentin Tarantino style!

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Why did you pick on Islam and Qur'aan only?


You're right BMZ....The brothers Karamazov aka "Abrahamic Faiths" have all included a concept of eternal torture someway or another, Christianity being the mildest and Islam being the most graphic and horrific!

There is no religion on earth has had more graphic description on how God can be so creative when it comes to skinning his creation! A merciful God indeed??? An omniscient God who knows everything in advance, yet design a full picture of creations where over 99% of its people will end up in renewed eternal torture!!!???

I am sorry BMZ this God is nothing but man using the most powerful tool since the inception of control....This powerful tool is still being used today....FEAR!

I choose not to be afraid....I obeyed my dad because I loved him and respected him...But for those Dads who use fear to control your children.....Your children will grow up one day and break free from your fear and control....You will then realise that every time they said yes to you, they never really meant it...they never really respected you...They never really loved you.....How sad!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi bmz - i answered the third question above (I am no expert in other faiths) as for my answer to the first two, I share AB's thoughts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I thought that it's just anoher url to a ytube video, never relaized that it's you Hassan, possibly that's is why you ignored my comment

no worries

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually I thought that it's just anoher url to a ytube video, never relaized that it's you Hassan, possibly that's is why you ignored my comment

no worries

cheers


Hey Abu Hmaid!

Turn up all the volumes in your Sound & Audio Devices in Control Panel.

We are as ever very interested in your views.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me answer these questions then:

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Is Hell a real place?


It must be according to the Quran

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Should the descriptions in the Qur'an be taken literally?



Of course


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Is everyone who rejects Islam going to Hell?


According to the Quran, yes, and also many of those who acceot islam will go to hell

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Does God want to frighten us into believing and into obedience?


yes, because that is the only way for humans to comply with tough laws

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies Ahmad - I hope you and your family are well my friend.

I'm still trying to keep away from forums right now as I am working on other things - but will pop in a gain soon.

Take care all Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had to share this comment, because it's so funny (and revealing) - it was left on my "Reply to Wafa Sultan" video:

y r u pretending to have been a muslim dude it so obvious ur was not.

LOL...  Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for your replies Ahmad - I hope you and your family are well my friend.

I'm still trying to keep away from forums right now as I am working on other things - but will pop in a gain soon.

Take care all Smile


Thaks mate, likewise to you and your family
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually I thought that it's just anoher url to a ytube video, never relaized that it's you Hassan, possibly that's is why you ignored my comment

no worries

cheers


Hey Abu Hmaid!

Turn up all the volumes in your Sound & Audio Devices in Control Panel.

We are as ever very interested in your views.

Regards


Salam mate

I tried but still very low, I needed to hold the laptp speaker next to my ears which was very tiring

I stated my views many time regarding hell, I even made a movie about it, did you see it?

I just needed to reply to hassan question that he posted on his youtube video description

Take care
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
All_Brains wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Actually I thought that it's just anoher url to a ytube video, never relaized that it's you Hassan, possibly that's is why you ignored my comment

no worries

cheers


Hey Abu Hmaid!

Turn up all the volumes in your Sound & Audio Devices in Control Panel.

We are as ever very interested in your views.

Regards


Salam mate

I tried but still very low, I needed to hold the laptp speaker next to my ears which was very tiring

I stated my views many time regarding hell, I even made a movie about it, did you see it?

I just needed to reply to hassan question that he posted on his youtube video description

Take care


Hey Ahmed

It seems you not that interested any more, but anyways, if you want to see the video, I would suggest that you use a seperate set of speakers, fx headphones, where you also can adjust the volume on.

Best regards


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