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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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You want to spread atheism, start by implementing methods that create personal independance. Good Luck. A better method will be to start your own 'Group' of atheists. So atheists can feel secure and can feel a sense of belonging. ...............Baal.

That is what the four Prophets of Atheism discuss in the Four Horseman .

http://richarddawkins.net/article...h-Richard-Dawkins-Episode-1-RDFRS


You see, I really don't want to spread anything. I believe in absolute freedom and all what I ask for is for people to revisit their beliefs and verify them.

I am no longer hater of religion, as it can help people having something to live for. I am ok with that unless it starts to determine other people's fate.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love those guys. But they keep turning around the same boring and inconsequential points.

They keep wondering why people believe in hocus pocus. And how can you get people to stop believing in hocus pocus.

The problem is people are not into religion because of the hocus pocus. People are into the religion because of the services offered by religion.

For example, BMZ is not a muslim because he believes islamic sources to be true. BMZ is a muslim because he thinks islam is a good idea. And he thinks islam is a good idea because he thinks the "Services", that islam is offering him, are more superior then the "Services" offered by other systems.

Until those horsemen learn to address the Services offered by the religions, they will keep turning in a teacup.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am no longer hater of religion, as it can help people having something to live for. I am ok with that unless it starts to determine other people's fate.


And that's a good view on it. But sadly there's a lot of people outthere seems determined that their faith should be influencial on other people. And as such the issues "the 4 horsemen" is discussing is valid.

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Until those horsemen learn to address the Services offered by the religions, they will keep turning in a teacup.


Hopefully it wont be the case. Hopefully people will as time goes by realise the faults in their belief. It would be sad if we have to build up some new "services". I don't hope that people are that closed and needy for magic.


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