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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Hello A_B Reply with quote

Thanks for drawing my attention to this section. I am very busy at some other sites full of hardcore Christians and on one where Christians are egged on by the FFI goon Anti-Jihad and others.

Will write more on the exchange between your goodself and Ahmed later but I have to say something about the latest question raised by you.

وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلاَئِكَةِ إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِي الأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً قَالُواْ أَتَجْعَلُ فِيهَا مَن يُفْسِدُ فِيهَا وَيَسْفِكُ الدِّمَاء وَنَحْنُ نُسَبِّحُ بِحَمْدِكَ وَنُقَدِّسُ لَكَ قَالَ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمون

The point is that Qur'aan simply clarifies what truly happened in the past and how past scriptures went through corruption and forgeries. If we keep this simple point in our minds, every piece fits the puzzle and bingo! we get the answer and the message.

The above verse abrogates the biblical verse that caused hell of a confusion which continues to be exploited by the Christians and this will go on forever. In the abrogated biblical scripture, it was reported that God said,"Let us make man in our own image."

This went on fine with the Jews as for 3,500 years, they knew that only God made the man. They knew well that the word 'us" or "Us" simply referred to God. And even today the Jews believe that. They never thought for a moment that there were two or three or more Gods sitting there and talking amongst themselves to create man in their own image.

The Jews also knew well that God was talking to those present in the Heavenly Place and those could have been Angels, Demons, Jinns and other creations, created earlier by God.

Came in the Christians after Jesus was long gone or vanished from the scene and looked for the two or three characters of the Trinity everywhere in the Jewish holy scriptures. Lo! and behold!,  they found it in the word Us or us in Genesis.  Laughing

This utter nonsense had to be repudiated and thus it was done away with accordingly and God told Muhammad in Qur'aan,"When your LORD said to the angels,'I am going to make man to rule the Earth......'"

Note that God did not use the royal We in this verse and clearly used First person singular.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To: Baal, HE and Tvebak,

The author has written:"This thread is designed for you all to comment on this debate."

Please comment on the debate. lol!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this allbrain wants to mock allah and his prophet and mr bahgat will show him inshallah Very Happy

I love this 'mocking' thing. Anything you discuss with a muslim, any subject you bring forward, and you are mocking.


of course you mock allah and his prophets i see it every day from you and other kafirs in the hell bound forum


Hello and Salaam Alaikum,

Don't worry about Baal and others. Baal provides us with comical relief and interludes. lol!

All_Brains is no longer a Muslim but raises good questions and his language is never crude. Initially, I was also once harsh to him at FFI but I find him a better ex-Muslim among 'em all.  Laughing  

I am sorry you have not met Anti-Jihad, who is a free-lance roaming troll all over the internet. He too provides comical relief but he suffers from verbal diarrhoea. lol! I am sure you will see him dirtying the place soon.

It also gives us a chance to explain to many other goons who come from Ali Sina's FFI and other ex-Muslim sites.

Have a nice stay.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tvebak wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!


Dude I'm not a christian for crying out loud! You see christians all over the place lol.
The silly idea of love to Jesus to recieve salvation is equally stupid.

But I guess that you BMZ is proud of your omniscient being and his jealously behaviour. And again pointing to a similar stupidity of another religion does not make your religion any better.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tvebak wrote:
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Tvebak wrote:
Defender of Islam wrote:
mashallah mr baghat you're killing this stupid man slowly. indeed allah has set a brick wall on his black heart


So nice of your "god". You must be soooo proud of an omniscient being mocking one of his own creations and preparing him (and me for the matter) for hell.

Peace


Does eternal damnation from your dear and loving godman/mangod ring a bell ? lol!


Dude I'm not a christian for crying out loud! You see christians all over the place lol.
The silly idea of love to Jesus to recieve salvation is equally stupid.

But I guess that you BMZ is proud of your omniscient being and his jealously behaviour. And again pointing to a similar stupidity of another religion does not make your religion any better.

Peace

Don't discourage him from studying Christianity, it is better for his psyche then islam. He never got around the idea of "who created the creator", so he needs to have a creator close by.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh ooh, now ahmed the desperate muslim has to resort to quoting some "revert" muslim, and why he "did it"...

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Being a revert post-911, I think the reason there is such a steady growth in the religion is because...


First of all WHERE is this alleged GROWTH ?

Muslims are losing ground, everywhere you look !

And the always cited "breeding factor" is also just a hoax !

We all know that muslims in 2nd or 3rd generation have even lower "breeding numbers" than average western people...

Adding to this decline, many many muslims are nominal muslims only, after living the big bad west, they become intimidated, and naturally so !

How many confessions of muslims LEAVING this absurd "faith", could we bring up... ?

The quoted text from this "revert" is nothing but a joke !

Ahmed must be pretty desperate...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahmed Bin't Ovar, you must have gotten something wrong here...

YOU are the SLAVE here, enjoying to be a slave, you're part of the "bend over culture" !

Bending over is so deeply ingrained into your "being", it has become part of you, walking upright is only an "intermezzo" to being bent over, your favourite position, your preferred position...  

And I think its good for you, so you don't feel the pain of being a slave in the first place !

To me it will make no difference, if you stay bent over all day long... Laughing

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