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cosmicdancer
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:52 am Post subject: Re: The Speech of God?

Hi BMZ - long time no see - thanks for your comments.

BMZ wrote:

Of course God did not send the Scripture in the form of a book...

If that's really what you thought I meant then you disappoint me.

BMZ wrote:

The problem is that people think of God in terms of a man, as a very old man, full of vengeance, sitting there with long hair and a very long beard, who created man in his own image...

I have never, ever thought such a thing, BMZ.

BMZ wrote:

If the doers of evil are treated the same way like the doers of good...

Not believing in Islam or God is not a evil nor a crime.

BMZ wrote:

Let me ask you about this verse. "Wa ma nata-naz-zalo illa bay-amray-rab-bay-ka". Who is talking here? God or Muhammad?

This is the only interesting question you have posed, BMZ. Of course it cannot have escaped your notice that I believe it is all a creation of Muhammad's mind.

But from a believers point of view this is still the word of God even though it is the quoted speech of the angel Gabriel to Muhammad.

I'm intrigued to know what point you are making here?
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:36 am Post subject:

Do remember BMZ, that the Quran repeatedly denounces unbelievers for being WORSE than murderers, rapists etc. This is generally known as demonization techniques.

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:09 am Post subject:

Hi CD,

My point was in response to this part of your question:

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How could the Merciful, the forgiving, say that he will torture those who don't believe in him, a torture that is permanent, everlasting, horrible, and frightening beyond all extreme.

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:13 am Post subject:

arildno wrote:

Do remember BMZ, that the Quran repeatedly denounces unbelievers for being WORSE than murderers, rapists etc.

This is generally known as demonization techniques.

arildno,

Please quote the verses from a particular section, where a topic is being mentioned. Don't just quote the translation of a verse. And specifically the verse that considers the unbelievers "murderers, rapists, etc."

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:58 am Post subject:

BMZ wrote:

Hi CD,

My point was in response to this part of your question:

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How could the Merciful, the forgiving, say that he will torture those who don't believe in him, a torture that is permanent, everlasting, horrible, and frightening beyond all extreme.

Cheers
BMZ

You've lost me BMZ - sorry.

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