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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Dear Baghat. When are you going to join me in the debate section?



I'm actually very tired and need a long break to continue translating the Quran and do a lot of accumlated IT work,

however I may have a look at it and see if I may say something quick, that is only if you post a link here, i have no time to even look for it myself, sorry


Oh God, you must be joking. More waffles than a house of pancakes. OK bag boy, here it is.
http://freefaith.myfreeforum.org/about76.html. Simple challenge. Here are the ONLY members involved in the inheritance example. Two daughters, two parents and one wife. That's it. No sons. No brothers or sisters, nor aunts or uncles, nor grandparents. No servants. No favorite call girls. Nada. Very simple. Take their shares, add them up for me, and tell me why you make each decision as per what is written in the Quran. If it's not in the Quran, it cannot be used. These terms are very favorable for you as you always insist upon Quran only


you may keep it itchy:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the admission that Allah has the faulty math skills of a 3rd grader.  Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the admission that Allah has the faulty math skills of a 3rd grader.  Laughing



I was kiddin with you punk

I have replied to your crap in there and you should know by now what you have do  for us to  continue
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the admission that Allah has the faulty math skills of a 3rd grader.  Laughing



I was kiddin with you punk

I have replied to your crap in there and you should know by now what you have do  for us to  continue


And I replied, so get busy and go back to your lab and concoct some ridiculous formula and answer the problem. I gave you all of the stupid respect you ever deserve, pride man.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
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Thanks for the admission that Allah has the faulty math skills of a 3rd grader.  Laughing



I was kiddin with you punk

I have replied to your crap in there and you should know by now what you have do  for us to  continue


And I replied, so get busy and go back to your lab and concoct some ridiculous formula and answer the problem. I gave you all of the stupid respect you ever deserve, pride man.


Go ahead punk and list your first case

remeber no copy paste

and I wil only look at one case at a time
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did, so quit stalling charlatan. It's all laid out in detail for you. So until you acknowledge it, SHUDDUP !!!  LOL!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Ahmed, I think you replied to the wrong thread. I was talking about how we are supposed to obey Muhamad and accept what he forbade, then you answered with 2:256. Which is a completely different subject. It was a nice read but it is from a different subject.


Just a note on what you posted. You wrote:
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-> See what was the options for the heaven and earth:  He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly., see what the heaven and earth replied with: They both said: We come willingly., they knew that if they refuse to do their course (worshipping Allah) willingly then they will be FORCED to do it unwillingly and the course of Allah must stay unchanged, He created them for a role and they have to do such role exactly like the angels, Are the humans smart as the heaven and earth to realize that they  have no choice but to submit willingly to the One who created them?

Well, the humans have different sets of rules to the ones the angels or the heaven and earth have, the humans are higher than all those creatures, all these creatures were created but to serve the humans as well serving the creator., by them serving the humans, it has to be serving the creator because they are fulfilling their roles that they were only created for. No free rides for them. if they won’t fit their roles willingly, they WILL FIT IT UNWILLINGLY, by force, it will never happen to them though because they know 100% that Allah exists as they know that they will have no reward.

Levels of Dissonance.

That is not a choice Ahmed. If I tell some guy: "Come here or I will burn you and your kid", trust me on this one, that is not a choice. The Earth and the Sun or the moon came Willingly? Bull. Nothing is done willingly if you know the consequences are too severe (Destruction) when you do not obey.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i.e. bloody e. we need to follow the authenticated hadith that ONLY warns us from doing something, NA HAKUM


Oh, swell. Then we must listen to the hadith that tells us not to let black dogs into our house or have pictures in there because they prevent angels from entering

or this one

"If a monkey, a black dog or a woman passes in front of a praying person, his prayer is nullified." (Bukhari 8/102; Hanbel 4/86).

Or how about the rule that says don't wipe you bum with bones because invisible creatures made from smokeless flame have a discerning palette and apparently don't like the taste of human crap on their food.

I'm sure there are plenty of ridiculous hadiths where Muhammad prohibits something that others can mention as well. you opened up a can of worms. Doa !!


Well, what can you say......



You just reminded me about the bloody British, who had that slogan all over the Empire. Rotflmao.
Why did they do that? out of Jesus Christ's Love rubbish theme? LOL!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HomoErectus wrote:
Mutley wrote:
I'm Ed Baghat wrote:

i.e. bloody e. we need to follow the authenticated hadith that ONLY warns us from doing something, NA HAKUM


Oh, swell. Then we must listen to the hadith that tells us not to let black dogs into our house or have pictures in there because they prevent angels from entering

or this one

"If a monkey, a black dog or a woman passes in front of a praying person, his prayer is nullified." (Bukhari 8/102; Hanbel 4/86).

Or how about the rule that says don't wipe you bum with bones because invisible creatures made from smokeless flame have a discerning palette and apparently don't like the taste of human crap on their food.

I'm sure there are plenty of ridiculous hadiths where Muhammad prohibits something that others can mention as well. you opened up a can of worms. Doa !!


Well, what can you say......



The Prophet is refering to Black Dogs (ie. Hyenas, Jackals, Coyotes)

We are supposed to kill those dogs all the time, in any circumstance, as these dogs are very dangerous and will kill you if they get the opportunity..........Anyone who has been to the desert knows this.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HomoErectus wrote:
Mutley wrote:
I'm Ed Baghat wrote:

i.e. bloody e. we need to follow the authenticated hadith that ONLY warns us from doing something, NA HAKUM


Oh, swell. Then we must listen to the hadith that tells us not to let black dogs into our house or have pictures in there because they prevent angels from entering

or this one

"If a monkey, a black dog or a woman passes in front of a praying person, his prayer is nullified." (Bukhari 8/102; Hanbel 4/86).

Or how about the rule that says don't wipe you bum with bones because invisible creatures made from smokeless flame have a discerning palette and apparently don't like the taste of human crap on their food.

I'm sure there are plenty of ridiculous hadiths where Muhammad prohibits something that others can mention as well. you opened up a can of worms. Doa !!


Well, what can you say......



The Prophet is refering to Black Dogs (ie. Hyenas, Jackals, Coyotes)

We are supposed to kill those dogs all the time, in any circumstance, as these dogs are very dangerous and will kill you if they get the opportunity..........Anyone who has been to the desert knows this.


I am afraid that's ignorant! All these animals you named have their names in Arabic and "kalb" is not one of them.

There is also another hadith of one guy asking Muhammad about other dog colors and whether they're too demons!!
He answered, only the black dog is a demon!!!!


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