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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: arabic  Reply with quote

is arabic more elaborate and complicated then english to learn?

i learned english as a child and it was not that hard now i want to learn arabic but am not sure how hard it is!

what is with like the bi way si all that at the beginning and idhin kumu all that at the ending? that seems foreign in english!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: arabic Reply with quote

ibnishaq wrote:
is arabic more elaborate and complicated then english to learn?

i learned english as a child and it was not that hard now i want to learn arabic but am not sure how hard it is!

what is with like the bi way si all that at the beginning and idhin kumu all that at the ending? that seems foreign in english!


It depends Shaq on how talented you're with languages. Judging by your English being a second language and the fact that you're Muslim and had frequent exposure to Arabic, I don't think it would be that difficult for you to learn.

Give it a try.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: arabic Reply with quote

ibnishaq wrote:
is arabic more elaborate and complicated then english to learn?

i learned english as a child and it was not that hard now i want to learn arabic but am not sure how hard it is!

what is with like the bi way si all that at the beginning and idhin kumu all that at the ending? that seems foreign in english!

I know how to speak it and read it, but not understand it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raza and shaq, I don't know if there is a parallel doctrine in the Qu'ran, but for Bible you must a) believe Christ paid for your sins, and b) use 1John 1:9 every time you read, or you cannot understand it, even if you understand every word individually.

Qu'ran also claims to be of Divine Intelligence, which means you need Divine Help to read it.  So maybe what you want to do, is ask Allah to cause you to understand it.  If the real Allah is God of the Bible, then when you read you'll come to see that.  If the real Allah is instead of the Qu'ran, then you'll come to see that.

Always ask God for the interpretation as you read.  And keep asking.  That's a vote to know God, and God (whichever He is) will answer.

Unlike many anti-Muslims here, I do NOT believe you should abandon the Qu'ran until YOU PERSONALLY have proof YOU need from God Himself to justify that.  And what interpretation can you validly make, if you don't know GOD is giving it to you?

It's a question of AUTHORITY:  God's.  So we should always ask Him.

Enjoy, both of you, it's nice to see your posts!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arabic is damn tough to master even for the native Arabic speakers
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Hah! What a load of twaddle. People only maintain this due to the numerous contradictions in the Qur’an and their inability to solve them without appealing to the notion that you have to have studied ‘Arabi intensely for decades before you can glean the true meaning of the Qur’an. Yet these same people seem to know the ‘true’ meaning of the Qur’an!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
Hah! What a load of twaddle. People only maintain this due to the numerous contradictions in the Qur’an and their inability to solve them without appealing to the notion that you have to have studied ‘Arabi intensely for decades before you can glean the true meaning of the Qur’an. Yet these same people seem to know the ‘true’ meaning of the Qur’an!



That's right, we are the ones who Allah taught us the Quran so we can teach it to those who are humble, not the arrogant
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be easier to learn the language if you are a Muslim. Muslims have constantly listened to Arabic and have a frequent exposure to Arabic, so it would be easier to learn. Not to mention the fact that most of us can read the language and write it and can pronounce all the words.

Arabic would still be difficult. But I judge that we Muslims have a head-start regarding this language
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Arabic is damn tough to master even for the native Arabic speakers


Brother AhmedBahgat, I know it is hard to master the Arabic language. But is it hard to learn it?

Like, how hard would it be for me to learn Arabic to an extent that I would understand the Quran and speak to Arabs on the street?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Arabic is damn tough to master even for the native Arabic speakers


Brother AhmedBahgat, I know it is hard to master the Arabic language. But is it hard to learn it?

Like, how hard would it be for me to learn Arabic to an extent that I would understand the Quran and speak to Arabs on the street?

Understanding the koran and speaking to arabs on the street is Two separate skills.

Although if you learn to read/speak koran, other arabs will understand you when you speak, however you might not understand them when. Not unless you live there for few month.

Arabic should not have been that hard to learn except that, those with the knowledge of Arabic, teach arabic like asses. They IMO made it harder to learn on purpose.

Today there are Western institutions that are teaching Arabic and it is much easier to learn from their methods then to learn it from Arabs.

But then again, why do you want to learn arabic? is there some inventions you want to read about or a "Top 3000" university you would like to join. Is there anything of value Arabs made lately that you would like to learn their language?

You are much better off learning German or Japanese then learning this sh1t language used by people whose entire GPA added together is still lower then a crappy European country. People who live off foreign aid because they can not produce enough food for themselves.

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