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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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 what the fuk my sister had to do with it, you filthy freak?


LOL! Bro. That was a good one.

Baal's comment made me think as if he/she, keeping in mind that I do not know his/her gender, works in the flesh trade. Looks like mainly in procurement department.  Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He allowed himself to nikah as many women as he wants. Only to himself. And he did. By the Dozen. And your objection is that he had to pay a dowry - mahr? In this case, that is the same as you paying a prostitute.

And you state that I have to read 33:51 and 33:52 as well? Those verses make Muhammad worse, they make him into a monster not just a dirty old man.

In 33:51 he allows himself, and Only himself to *Do As He Wishes* with their turns. He can take one instead of the other with no regard to anything but his dick.

In 33:52 is the absolute BS, after allowing himselg anything under the Sun, it states that he can not marry anymore then what is under the Sun. And it still reiterates that he can have from what his right hand possess.


Don't be silly by saying he allowed himself. Only an idiot will say that.  Laughing We will discuss this when I will quote you the verses in Arabic. You will be doing the translation for me.  Laughing

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Btw BMZ, I would not jump for joy so much about the verse permitting Nikah. The word Nikha is not mentioned at all in the famous Nikah verse. It only states that "We made them Halal for you", so I would not advertize the rules of Nikah so much if I were you.


We will cover this also. I think you will be of great help when I will ask you to translate along with me. Just be patient. It is easy for you to talk silly when you write on your own.  Laughing

We will do that together.

Assuming you are a married woman, did your husband just take you or married you?


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PS: As for being a moderator. I will never moderate a discussion I am in.


This discussion does not require a moderator. However, If there is a need, only a person who knows Arabic and is good at English, can moderate.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMZ wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
 what the fuk my sister had to do with it, you filthy freak?


LOL! Bro. That was a good one.

Baal's comment made me think as if he/she, keeping in mind that I do not know his/her gender, works in the flesh trade. Looks like mainly in procurement department.  Laughing

BMZ



I invited Chicken lies bro to this web site, I passed to him a link to your post about him and told him to join  so we can have him for breakfast

I guess he is thinking about it

we too need to think about it, how would you like him bro?

well done?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Translate the following verses along with me Baal Reply with quote

Hellooo, Baal

Could you please let me know how old are you? It is imperative that I should know. Thanks. Here are the verses and please translate in your own English. I want to see an ex-Muslim Egyptian Arab translating it for me and the audience.



يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحۡلَلۡنَا لَكَ أَزۡوَٲجَكَ ٱلَّـٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيۡتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّـٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَـٰلَـٰتِكَ ٱلَّـٰتِى هَاجَرۡنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمۡرَأَةً۬ مُّؤۡمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتۡ نَفۡسَہَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنۡ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسۡتَنكِحَہَا خَالِصَةً۬ لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَۗ قَدۡ عَلِمۡنَا مَا فَرَضۡنَا عَلَيۡهِمۡ فِىٓ أَزۡوَٲجِهِمۡ وَمَا مَلَڪَتۡ أَيۡمَـٰنُهُمۡ لِكَيۡلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيۡكَ حَرَجٌ۬ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورً۬ا رَّحِيمً۬ا (٥٠) ۞ تُرۡجِى مَن تَشَآءُ مِنۡہُنَّ وَتُـٔۡوِىٓ إِلَيۡكَ مَن تَشَآءُۖ وَمَنِ ٱبۡتَغَيۡتَ مِمَّنۡ عَزَلۡتَ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيۡكَۚ ذَٲلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَن تَقَرَّ أَعۡيُنُہُنَّ وَلَا يَحۡزَنَّ وَيَرۡضَيۡنَ بِمَآ ءَاتَيۡتَهُنَّ ڪُلُّهُنَّۚ وَٱللَّهُ يَعۡلَمُ مَا فِى قُلُوبِكُمۡۚ وَڪَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلِيمًا حَلِيمً۬ا (٥١) لَّا يَحِلُّ لَكَ ٱلنِّسَآءُ مِنۢ بَعۡدُ وَلَآ أَن تَبَدَّلَ بِہِنَّ مِنۡ أَزۡوَٲجٍ۬ وَلَوۡ أَعۡجَبَكَ حُسۡنُہُنَّ إِلَّا مَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ۬ رَّقِيبً۬ا (٥٢)


Translate each verse separately and put commas and full-stops (periods), where you think it is necessary.

You are allowed to do commentary also to explain each verse. You don't have to rush up. Take your time.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Translate the following verses along with me Baal Reply with quote

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Hellooo, Baal

Could you please let me know how old are you? It is imperative that I should know. Thanks. Here are the verses and please translate in your own English. I want to see an ex-Muslim Egyptian Arab translating it for me and the audience.



يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحۡلَلۡنَا لَكَ أَزۡوَٲجَكَ ٱلَّـٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيۡتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّـٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَـٰلَـٰتِكَ ٱلَّـٰتِى هَاجَرۡنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمۡرَأَةً۬ مُّؤۡمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتۡ نَفۡسَہَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنۡ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسۡتَنكِحَہَا خَالِصَةً۬ لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَۗ قَدۡ عَلِمۡنَا مَا فَرَضۡنَا عَلَيۡهِمۡ فِىٓ أَزۡوَٲجِهِمۡ وَمَا مَلَڪَتۡ أَيۡمَـٰنُهُمۡ لِكَيۡلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيۡكَ حَرَجٌ۬ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورً۬ا رَّحِيمً۬ا (٥٠) ۞ تُرۡجِى مَن تَشَآءُ مِنۡہُنَّ وَتُـٔۡوِىٓ إِلَيۡكَ مَن تَشَآءُۖ وَمَنِ ٱبۡتَغَيۡتَ مِمَّنۡ عَزَلۡتَ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيۡكَۚ ذَٲلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَن تَقَرَّ أَعۡيُنُہُنَّ وَلَا يَحۡزَنَّ وَيَرۡضَيۡنَ بِمَآ ءَاتَيۡتَهُنَّ ڪُلُّهُنَّۚ وَٱللَّهُ يَعۡلَمُ مَا فِى قُلُوبِكُمۡۚ وَڪَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلِيمًا حَلِيمً۬ا (٥١) لَّا يَحِلُّ لَكَ ٱلنِّسَآءُ مِنۢ بَعۡدُ وَلَآ أَن تَبَدَّلَ بِہِنَّ مِنۡ أَزۡوَٲجٍ۬ وَلَوۡ أَعۡجَبَكَ حُسۡنُہُنَّ إِلَّا مَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ۬ رَّقِيبً۬ا (٥٢)


Translate each verse separately and put commas and full-stops (periods), where you think it is necessary.

You are allowed to do commentary also to explain each verse. You don't have to rush up. Take your time.

BMZ

I am in the mid-Thirties. And the koran has no concept of commas so i find it silly when i read a translation with commas in it.

I have people over for christmas, I will translate when they leave although it is 1:20am and they do not seem to be slowing down yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Translate the following verses along with me Baal Reply with quote

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Hellooo, Baal

Could you please let me know how old are you? It is imperative that I should know. Thanks. Here are the verses and please translate in your own English. I want to see an ex-Muslim Egyptian Arab translating it for me and the audience.



يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحۡلَلۡنَا لَكَ أَزۡوَٲجَكَ ٱلَّـٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيۡتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّـٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَـٰلَـٰتِكَ ٱلَّـٰتِى هَاجَرۡنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمۡرَأَةً۬ مُّؤۡمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتۡ نَفۡسَہَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنۡ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسۡتَنكِحَہَا خَالِصَةً۬ لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَۗ قَدۡ عَلِمۡنَا مَا فَرَضۡنَا عَلَيۡهِمۡ فِىٓ أَزۡوَٲجِهِمۡ وَمَا مَلَڪَتۡ أَيۡمَـٰنُهُمۡ لِكَيۡلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيۡكَ حَرَجٌ۬ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورً۬ا رَّحِيمً۬ا (٥٠) ۞ تُرۡجِى مَن تَشَآءُ مِنۡہُنَّ وَتُـٔۡوِىٓ إِلَيۡكَ مَن تَشَآءُۖ وَمَنِ ٱبۡتَغَيۡتَ مِمَّنۡ عَزَلۡتَ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيۡكَۚ ذَٲلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَن تَقَرَّ أَعۡيُنُہُنَّ وَلَا يَحۡزَنَّ وَيَرۡضَيۡنَ بِمَآ ءَاتَيۡتَهُنَّ ڪُلُّهُنَّۚ وَٱللَّهُ يَعۡلَمُ مَا فِى قُلُوبِكُمۡۚ وَڪَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلِيمًا حَلِيمً۬ا (٥١) لَّا يَحِلُّ لَكَ ٱلنِّسَآءُ مِنۢ بَعۡدُ وَلَآ أَن تَبَدَّلَ بِہِنَّ مِنۡ أَزۡوَٲجٍ۬ وَلَوۡ أَعۡجَبَكَ حُسۡنُہُنَّ إِلَّا مَا مَلَكَتۡ يَمِينُكَۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ۬ رَّقِيبً۬ا (٥٢)


Translate each verse separately and put commas and full-stops (periods), where you think it is necessary.

You are allowed to do commentary also to explain each verse. You don't have to rush up. Take your time.

BMZ

I am in the mid-Thirties. And the koran has no concept of commas so i find it silly when i read a translation with commas in it.

I have people over for christmas, I will translate when they leave although it is 1:20am and they do not seem to be slowing down yet.


No worries and no hurry. Take your time. You are young and will more time.  Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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 what the fuk my sister had to do with it, you filthy freak?


LOL! Bro. That was a good one.

Baal's comment made me think as if he/she, keeping in mind that I do not know his/her gender, works in the flesh trade. Looks like mainly in procurement department.  Laughing

BMZ



I invited Chicken lies bro to this web site, I passed to him a link to your post about him and told him to join  so we can have him for breakfast

I guess he is thinking about it

we too need to think about it, how would you like him bro?

well done?


Looks like, you read my mind, bro. Of course well done.  Laughing

You invited him and I am sure he will come and bring along a team. That is good. If Beef_Pie can be done well, Chicken_Pie will not need a long time to be well done.

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