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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Why BMZ, what did you think this verse means? Why did you bring forward this verse about 7th century bedouins dividing the loot among themselves?


Baal, you are the one who posted the verse, not me. This should serve your short-lived memory well, because you wrote this to Ahmed.
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Your wishful thinking to only apply the koran at the exclusion of all other islamic scripture and knowledge is to be commended. Koran is short on laws and regulations that it can not handle 99.9% of the situations in the real world.

If you only want to apply the koran at the exclusion to all the other crap, then islam will be almost non-existent in the life of an islamic society and that is a GREAT thing. I wish you luck Ahmed, I really do.

But for now I will give you this gift that was passed to me at Answering-faithfreedom about how important the Hadith and Sunna are:

Sura 59:7 "...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)..."


The problem is you talk too much but understand very little and also remember little. In the above quote of yours, I have emboldened one of your silly and idiotic comments.

The "gift", that you passed, was in reference to people who use that verse for justifying hadith and that was your intention. You were not asking for an explanation.

That is why I asked you that question. Rotflmao. Also, keep in mind that the 7th Century was far more modern than the 1st Century and all the Centuries before that.  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  You may not be able to undersatnd what I just said but give it a try.  Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi BMZ

I agree with you that the specific verse does not excuse the use of the hadith. But do you feel that the quran is sufficient for your belief?
Do you feel that the quran explain sufficiently on how to deal with the different things that the Quran demands you to do?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMZ wrote:
Baal wrote:
Why BMZ, what did you think this verse means? Why did you bring forward this verse about 7th century bedouins dividing the loot among themselves?


Baal, you are the one who posted the verse, not me. This should serve your short-lived memory well, because you wrote this to Ahmed.
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Your wishful thinking to only apply the koran at the exclusion of all other islamic scripture and knowledge is to be commended. Koran is short on laws and regulations that it can not handle 99.9% of the situations in the real world.

If you only want to apply the koran at the exclusion to all the other crap, then islam will be almost non-existent in the life of an islamic society and that is a GREAT thing. I wish you luck Ahmed, I really do.

But for now I will give you this gift that was passed to me at Answering-faithfreedom about how important the Hadith and Sunna are:

Sura 59:7 "...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)..."


The problem is you talk too much but understand very little and also remember little. In the above quote of yours, I have emboldened one of your silly and idiotic comments.

The "gift", that you passed, was in reference to people who use that verse for justifying hadith and that was your intention. You were not asking for an explanation.

That is why I asked you that question. Rotflmao. Also, keep in mind that the 7th Century was far more modern than the 1st Century and all the Centuries before that.  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  You may not be able to undersatnd what I just said but give it a try.  Laughing

BMZ

Your attack on my memory is duly noted.
Your attempt to run away is also noted.

If you bring every verse that I posted everywhere then you might end up writing half the koran in here.

So now, plz explain to us why you brought this verse forward and what you think of it.

Particularly, Plz explain to me, how can we know what he allowed and what he forbade without any hadith. Keep in mind that to the average muslim, in the koran it is not Mohammad who allows and forbids, it is allah. So how can we know what Muhammad allowed and forbade?

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