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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
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The story is BS. You are in the middle of the desert. You see some light, you have no clue what it is, you go alone?! and you send the leader? and you send the leader alone?

Also although both verses mean the same, what moses said in each verse is different. He meant the same though. You can blame it on the fact that he was not speaking arabic and the koran was just trying to translate what moses said.

But now we have an issue Ahmed, which of the Two verses is the better translation for what Moses said?


mister baal

Allah is telling us the story USING HIS OWN words, then He told us the story again, using His own different words but same context then  He told us about it for the third time using His own different words and still same context, This is the miracle of the Quran, pal

Allah is not reading to us a log book of what is excatly been said

don't act desperate as Tv

cheers

This little issue is not a back-breaker for the koran, just another extra weight a koran apologist has to carry around.

A good (perfect) translator will have all his terms and equivalences straight. He will not waver in terms as he tells the same story twice.

On another level, you only have 6000+ verses, you waste your time and mine to tell me the same story twice? What is up with that? One of the reasons the koran is so boring is how it keeps repeating the same empty "1001 Arabian Nights" type stories over and over.

As I said, not a back-breaker, but I will add it to your backpack of apologies.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, Ball.
Also, Ahmed forgot that our God is NOT Allah.
We MUST make this distinction if we to continue this topic.

So, Allah (created by Mohammad) is well known to change his mind all the time. See the contradictions in the koran.

When Mohammad was asked why the drastic changes, Allah revealed,  Surah 16:101, “And when We change a Verse (of the Qur’an) in place of another- and Allah knows best what He sends down-they (the disbelievers) say; “You (O Mohammad are but a Muftari (forger, liar).” Nay but most know not.”
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is like those Jehovah's Witness. They made a religion where they believe in the same god as us. Only that Jesus is really the Archangel Michael (Mikhaeel), and he changed to become a human, then after he went back to become the archangel and will one day judge everybody and only 144,000 people will be accepted in heaven.

Somehow I have to believe that their god is my god since they claim they believe in the same god as us. Stupid Gits.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is like those Jehovah's Witness. They made a religion where they believe in the same god as us. Only that Jesus is really the Archangel Michael (Mikhaeel), and he changed to become a human, then after he went back to become the archangel and will one day judge everybody and only 144,000 people will be accepted in heaven.

Somehow I have to believe that their god is my god since they claim they believe in the same god as us. Stupid Gits.

Ironically, they call themselves Christians and the uninformed believe them.
The same thing with the Mormons.

They are decievers like Muslims, but, at least their books do not instruct them to KILL whoever do not belong to them.

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