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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: who are the infidels??  Reply with quote

Infidels?
Islam considers any non-Muslim an infidel (non-believer).
“Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor the last day…Nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay Jizia (taxes) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”. Surah 9:29
“O Isa (Jesus) son of Maryam! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me, and my mother as two gods beside Allah?” Surah 5:116
Also, “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors.” Surah 5:51
Many other surahs, which instruct every Muslim to fight (kill) the infidels (non-Muslims), because they (infidels) do not deserve to live.
Mohammad decided, ignorantly and falsely, that Christians worship 3 gods.
Ironically, the Koran admits that Jesus Christ is the Word of God, like the Christians do:
“When the angels said: “O Maryam ( Mary)! Verily, Allah gives you the glad findings of the Word (“Be!”-and he was! i.e. Isa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary) from Him, his name will be the Messiah ‘Isa (Jesus), the son of Maryam,  held in honor of this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah.” Surah 3:45
And if you continue reading surahs 3:46-50 one can realize that Mohammad could not escape the truth that Jesus was God.

Now let us see what Muslims believe in.
They keep repeating the following:

“Allah akbar”. That means in Arabic Allah is greater. This is an incomplete sentence.
The Islamists translate that “Allah is great”.

Here is a small lesson in Arabic language:
Kebeer (in Arabic) means great.
Al-akbar means the greatest.
Akbar means greater.
The question is greater than who or what?

Also, every time they mention Mohammad they say “sallah Allah alieh wa sallam”.
That means Allah PRAYS on him and peace with him.
If Allah is God, to whom Allah is praying? Is there another god?
This is due to the fact that the Arab pagans worshipped 360 gods with allah is the most common, and Mohammad was raised in the religion of the moon god al-e-lah. This Al-e-lah was the moon god according to the archeological evidence. That is why they have the crescent moon on their flags and on top of their mosques, till this day.

Also, their shehada (creed) says:
Ashhad an la illah illa Allah we Mohammad rasoul Allah.”
Which means, ‘I believe in one god and Mohammad is his messenger.
Now, if one says the first portion only, he would not be considered a Muslim. One MUST  say the second part of the sentence in order to become a Muslim. That means Mohammad  is as important as Allah if not more important!!

CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD AND ONE GOD ONLY, regardless of what Mohammad said.

Muslims consider Christians infidels because Mohammad revealed ignorantly a false statement, that Christians worship 3 gods, the Father, Mary and Jesus. Well, what one expects from an illiterate Arab who lived in the desert attacking commercial caravans and living on the booties, to understand the Holy Trinity?!
And then he instructed the Muslims to kill ALL infidels!!!!

Ironically, the Koran (Mohammad and his allah) admits the immaculate conception of Jesus (19:16-41), He as Messiah (3:45;4:171;5:75),  performed miracles including creation (2:87;5:10;110,112-14;43:65).
In addition, “We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear (signs) and strengthened him with the HOLY SPIRIT. (2:87).

The contradictions in the Koran, is well known now.

If Mohammad continued in this direction he would be a Christian. To alleviate that and save him from a deadly embarrassment, Allah sent surah 4:157, “-but they killed him not, nor crucified him…” Stranger still, “..but the resemblance of Isa (Jesus)was put over another man..”!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ronyvo, Ahmed made a case once in FFI, that "Salat - pray" in the koran is just a mean to establish communication, as in it can go both ways. I remember losing track of this conversation.

I wrote a 2 page reply then my client crashed and I was too pissed to pick up on the subject, by the time I was looking for it to continue the conversation, I was banned from FFI.

My problem with "Salla Allahu Alyhi Wa Sallam" is that here is a human, and then many times a day multiplied by 1 Billion, we ask a God, to take action, in favor of that human.

Muhammad sitting down and Allah has to take action in favor of a human. As if that god is Muhammad's Butler.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Baal
I am back.
Sorry for the delay.

I am ajust wondering why were you banned from FFI?
My views are like mine. I was not banned. At lest not so far.

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